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Bike upgrades or new bike

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Hey guys.

I've been chatting on Discord with C and Max about my bike, I feel I could use an upgrade having ridden my current one for 3 years now.

Here's what it looks like, I paid about 200 euros for it:
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Last year I realized my fork wasn't what I wanted, so I put in a Rockshox 30 Silver Coil, another 125 euros. I also changed the grips and saddle, but I won't count those because I can put them on another bike anyway (another 50 euros there though). I'm not sure if the fork can fit a different frame because I had to cut the tube to fit this one.

Now I am not sure whether to upgrade some more or buy a better second-hand bike.
For the upgrades, here's what I intend to do (because I have integrated shifters 3x8 speed and brake levers w/ cable, I will need separate parts):

Pedals - 25 euros
https://www.cube.eu/en/equipment/compon ... -cc-black/

Handlebar 720mm - 15 euros
https://www.bike-components.de/en/LEVEL ... rs-p55680/

Shifters - 25 euros
https://www.marosbike.ro/manete-de-schi ... iteze.html

And now come the brakes, I have 4 choices and I am not sure which offers the best price/value ratio.
I know Deore are the best, but are they so good to be worth over 100 euros?

BR-MT200 - 40 euros
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Shima ... et-p67525/

BR-MT400 - 62 euros
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Shima ... et-p72603/

BR-MT420 - 92 euros
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Shima ... et-p74931/

Deore-BR-M6000 - 105 euros
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Shima ... it-p74933/

So the total for upgrading would be 105-170 euros depending on the brakes.

To buy a second-hand bike, I'd look for something around 650 euros, so if I can get 200 euros for my bike+new fork (sell it), it would be an extra 450 euros spent.
The advantage of this is I can get a better drivetrain (chainring, derailleurs, cassette, but honestly I don't mind these on my bike, the ratios are ok). The downside is that most bikes in this price range have a fork similar to mine, so no advantage there. And the brakes are usually BR-MT200.

TLDR:
I want to upgrade my bike or buy a new one, what would be better? Upgrading costs up to 170 euros, buying a new one costs 450 euros.
So far I spent 410 euros on my bike, add these upgrades (105/170) and I get a cost of 515/580 euros. However, I will be left with the original cassette/derailleurs/chainring.


Am I putting lipstick on a pig if I upgrade or is it a cheaper and better choice than buying a different bike?
Thanks.
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its not worth paying 450E for a new bike that's gonna be about the same quality as what you have now. if you want to upgrade the drivetrain you can do it on your current one for much cheaper than 450E. Drive the bike till the frame cracks then buy a new one and sell the old one as parts.

as for brakes MT-400 looks fine for the way you ride and its not expensive
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Agree with C. I say as long as the frame fits you well, it's not corroding and it rides okay I say go upgrade. 450€ only gets you some more baller points but in the end it'll be the same quality
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Ok, thanks for the input guys, Max told me the same thing regarding the frame, if it's in good condition and fits me it doesn't matter. Angles and the rest are only relevant for competition, which is not my case.

I will go for the BR-MT400 brakes, I finally found them in stock somewhere and I can buy the rest of the parts from there as well.

When choosing a handlebar, what do you look for? Should I pick something with a little rise? Or keep a flat bar? I don't normally ride down steep slopes.
See anything you'd pick out of these? I'd choose the first link.

https://www.veloteca.ro/ghidon-contec-b ... -8mm-720mm
https://www.veloteca.ro/ghidon-crosser- ... negru-rosu
https://www.veloteca.ro/ghidon-crosser-320bt-31-8mm
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Why do you even need to change it? My GT has 63cm bent handlebar, i don't like it, it feels like im driving a bus. Bulls on the other hand have straight 56cm handlebar and it feels more nimble and faster to steer. People say that the wider the handlebars the easier to turn and you have more control, i don't agree with that, riding on GT it feels like driving a land yacht and riding on Bulls feels like a bigger BMX bike. That's why when i just need to drive from point A to point B i use GT, and when i want to take off of a flight of stairs i ride Bulls.

That's just my thoughts and personal preference. tho 72cm? taht's a baseball bat...lol
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I don't like wide handlebars. Doesn't feel nice having your arms spread out, and I don't like how they feel while cornering. And you hit everything in narrow streets.
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I have a 660mm handlebar now, and I thought a wider one would improve my posture, but it may be just in my mind. Sometimes I feel tightness in my wrists so I thought a wider handlebar would straighten out my wrists relative to my arms.
Other than that, a lot of the newer bikes come equipped with very long ones (760mm) so I figured there must be a purpose for that.
I could just skip the handlebar for now and get it later if I really want it.

Out of curiosity, how do these second-hand bikes look? I am also considering giving my current bike to someone I know.
This one's Radon Stage 7.0, must be around 10 years old (580 eur), but it was 2000 eur when new, looks fantastic. I think this would be the only one I'd actually get. However, it's been on sale since July 16, so about a month, is it a bad deal or maybe it's got issues?
https://www.olx.ro/oferta/bicicleta-rad ... b20a5fccad
https://www.bike-magazin.de/mountainbik ... a1328.html

Never heard of this one, Haibike Attack RX 26 (450 eur)
https://www.olx.ro/oferta/haibike-attac ... 9d8a631eaa

Carver PTH 940 (505 eur)
https://www.olx.ro/oferta/bicicleta-car ... 9d8a631eaa

KTM Ultra Sport (475 eur)
https://www.olx.ro/oferta/vand-biciclet ... 9d8a631eaa

Focus Whistler Pro (505 eur)
https://www.olx.ro/oferta/mtb-focus-whi ... 9d8a631eaa
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like we said on discord, 500EU for a used bike is stupid unless its a special edition or very rare bike. 475for a fucking KTM? friend bought one just different colors(didnt had white rims or white front fork) for like 130-160EU(don't remember exact numer) 5+ years back
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Ok then, at least I had a look at some other options instead of upgrading.

So my conclusion is that I should go ahead and upgrade brakes, change shifters to fit and leave the handlebars out for now. Sounds good?

Another option I have is to buy integrated shifters again (3x8), for hydraulic brakes. The total price is cheaper, but I can only buy MT200 brakes for it if I buy a kit.
I feel this doesn't leave me much choice if I want to upgrade the cassette/chainrings because I will have to change the whole part again and get brake levers or a 9 speed integrated shifter. So in the long term, it would be a bad choice, right?
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